The Dominion WINS the war! Hah!

Founder · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:19 pm The Dominion WINS the war! Hah!**

In the DS9 Companion book, Ira Steven Behr said that a possible idea for the end of DS9 was...

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:24 pm**

That would be cool, then Endgame could have ended with Dominion ships prouncing on VOY

It could ahve set something up for a new series for sure.

Founder · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:28 pm**

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:30 pm**

Yeah, deff, it could have set up MANY things, I would have liked to seen it. Hmm.... That's a good idea.....

Dracojastin · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:31 pm**

I think that would be impossible because it was janeway from the future...
How would you explain that part of the story then?

Founder · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:33 pm**

Then a tv series could have been set up on the "remanants" of the Federation, Romulan, and Klingon empires trying to retake what was lost. Borders are non existant anymore and it becomes a brother and brother and brother uniting against an implaciable foe that has dominated their homeworld.

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:33 pm**

Er... your missing the point, if the dominion won the war in 2375, then clearly, in 23what ever it was in the future, janeway could not go back to 2378... wait....

Dracojastin · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:40 pm**

I dunno but i guess that i'm one of the few that found the endgame ending quite nice... But indeed it would be altered significantly...
If Barkley survives it would be just fine by me

Founder · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:53 pm**

I'm sure all the "main" people would survive. Another GOOD addition for VOY is that before the Dominion takes over, Starfleet sends them a message, warning of them of what is happening in the Alpha quadrant. The Voyager crew would be conflicted, deciding that one little ship would not change the war. They could settle down in the Delta and make a NEW Federation. One that could one day return to the Alpha and retake what is theirs. Of course, Janeway decides against this and has the ship sent back(somehow). This would have been great VOY story telling.

They can even find a way to involve the other crews, no matter the time period to stop this threat.

James T. Kirk can be brought back to life using Borg nanoprobes ala Neelix. "A Female Shapeshifter is the leader of the Dominion you say? Give me a holodeck with a romantic setting, champagne, and two hours with her. I'll end this war in no time..."

Forget Shinzon! Picard could have fought against the Dominion, finally, on screen. "I'll try diplomatic channels first. If that doesn't work? Mr. Worf? Power main phaser banks and load torpedo bays." He could kick butt like only a proper englishman can. (Er...frenchman...)

Sisko could have fought Dukat and ascended to the Celestial Temple. He could see the threat and return, facing off against Weyoun and a squadron of Jem'Hadar. "You're beaten captain Sisko. Our Gods are victorious..." "Gods eh? Meet my Gods. Prophets?" *The Prophets blink the Dominion out of existance*

Janeway could return, fatigued from the years in the Delta quadrant. "Maybe we can just surrender and live in peace. As long as we're back in the Alpha quadrant..." "Captain? The Changelings and Jem'Hadar do not drink or eat. Coffee has been banned." "WHAT!? Prepare ramming speed!"

All joking aside, this could have pushed aside the rather...lower points of trek. Insurrection, Nemesis, and ENT. As much as I do like ASPECTS of those three, we could have gained two other movies and a new series. It could have kept the franchise alive. Unlike the way it is now, in some...limbo.

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:57 pm**

Indeed....

Though, Still use the ENT Cast

GOOD actors there!

So many good chances....

Dracojastin · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:14 pm**

I liked how you explained it... so i voted yes

Voyager2004 · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:50 pm**

Founder · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:52 pm**

I'm glad to see people posting in the topic.

What do people expect from the series had this happened? What would the two TNG movies be about? The potential DS9 and VOY movies? The series that goes about restarting everything?

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:03 pm**

In a way, Ent with some alterations could have fit this premise, instead of an Xindi story Arc, a story with a crew fighting off the dominon....

I think it would have been desperate at first, the last two TNG movies, would probably involve the dominion more in some way, not just a refernce (Insurrection was at the end of the war) Nemesis certainly probably wouldn't have been a plot hole to make Spiner happy and kill Data...

Founder · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:07 pm**

Lord Borg · **Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:12 pm**

Yeah, set in the 24th, because it was making things "new" agan.

yeah, againts the dominion is better then againts a weapon that conviently, cannot be shut down at the last second.

Voyager2004 · **Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:16 am**

And the potential VOY movie would, obviously bring the crew home fairly early in the movie...because the Finale would have tied up any loose ends left open in the show, and led up to them getting back...then the movie would get them home some what quickly and then it would, unfortunately, be a combined shows movie...TNG, DS9 and VOY...VOY being the main focus about getting home, and then involving a few key characters from the other two mentioned shows to work together and, not fight off the Dominion in one movie, but work towards it...and then have maybe a multiple movies to fight off the Dominion. Maybe 2 or 3...I think it would have worked...because we all would get what we want...DS9 movie, and VOY...and obviously TNG...lol.

Or, the entire first VOY movie would be about them getting home...then upon getting home set it up for combined movies to fight off the Dominion. Therefore leaving the VOY movie a completely VOY movie, but bringing in a few key characters upon Voyager's return...then leading to another 2 or 3 movies to fight off the Dominion...Alot of potential there...I think at least....

Omet'Ikilan · **Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:27 am**

La Forge · **Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:15 pm**

I agree with Omet. If this DID happen...I would prefer if the VOY writers were NOT involved...in ANY way. Terrible writers. No wonder Ronald D. Moore wasn't a part of it.

Plus...Don't you know? Voyager would have been destroyed the second it came back. The Dominion is too strong for them.

vb23 · **Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:15 pm**

I voted NO because I like Federation and it would be boring if Dominion wined the war. The story would be completely changed/altered. Present end is good as it is!!!

PrankishSmart · **Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:15 am**

Heh could you imagine voyager fitted with the future tech taking on dominion ships. Then again, could you imagine the Ent-E outfitted with the future tech taking on a dominion fleet

La Forge · **Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:45 am**

Future tech. or not, I still doubt that the ENT-E or VOY being able to take on a whole Dominion fleet.

I don't like the idea of a new show, taking place after the Dominion War, with the Dominon in power, because I feel that it would take away from DS9. The Dominion belonged to DS9 and made DS9 special. I would hate for that to be taken away.

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Founder · **Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:53 am**

PrankishSmart · **Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:00 am**

Oh common Founder where is your sense of humour.

Besides, starfleet would have to get earth and the federation back in the end. Given how much the borg foe were abused so much in VOY and how unrealistic some stories became from S4-7, I would believe almost any scenario possible for the writers to come up with.