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Warp 10
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Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode alot but come on. Spock is the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Now we have some emotional "female" [no offence] Vulcan being the first in the fleet. Well, we changed history alright. Forget the Star Trek knowledge we have known for years regarding Spock. 
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Thomas
Pool Princess
Joined: 08 Jul 2001
Posts: 19730
Location: Manchester
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 12:30 pm |
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You're right, but I haven't see Broken Bow yet (I live in the United Kingdom). 
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Lindley
Vice Admiral
Joined: 18 Sep 2001
Posts: 6194
Location: Fairfax, VA
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 12:30 pm |
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Starfleet as we know it does not even exist, because there is no Federation yet. And T'Pol's not in Earth's Starfleet, she is more like a Vulcan exchange officer.
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Warp 10
Ensign
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Location: U.S.
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 12:32 pm |
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On 2001-09-27 12:30, Lindley wrote:
Starfleet as we know it does not even exist, because there is no Federation yet. And T'Pol's not in Earth's Starfleet, she is more like a Vulcan exchange officer.
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Yes but you heard the conversation with her and Archer. And plus if she is to stay on this series, it is likely she will have an official command.
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Thomas
Pool Princess
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Location: Manchester
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 12:34 pm |
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Very good thinking. 
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:09 pm |
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Or she could just stay as an official representative of Vulcan. She doesn't necessarily have to become Starfleet.
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jimgolian
booboo
Joined: 20 Jun 2001
Posts: 85
Location: Kansas
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:30 pm |
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Don't you have to graduate from Starfleet Academy to be in Starfleet?
And yes, there is no Starfleet yet.
[ This Message was edited by: jimgolian on 2001-09-27 13:31 ]
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Seven of Nine
Sammie's Mammy
Joined: 16 Jun 2001
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Location: North East England
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:34 pm |
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On 2001-09-27 13:30, jimgolian wrote:
Don't you have to graduate from Starfleet Academy to be in Starfleet?
And yes, there is no Starfleet yet.
[ This Message was edited by: jimgolian on 2001-09-27 13:31 ]
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Good point!
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Thomas
Pool Princess
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 1:39 pm |
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They don't have to graduate if there is no Starfleet to graduate from! 
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Captain Michael Pike
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:27 pm |
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There is a Starfleet, but no United Federation of Planets. She is a high ranking officer aboard the Enterprise but not a member of Starfleet, therefore she has the authority to take command of the ship even though she doesn't belong to Starfleet. Just like Kira could command DS9 and the Defiant, so can T'Pol command the Enterprise.
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Captain Michael Pike
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:28 pm |
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I agree that she was too emotional for a Vulcan.
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Seven of Nine
Sammie's Mammy
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:35 pm |
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I wanna see it!!!
(Am I being to emotional for Seven?)
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tom-paris-voyager
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 3:54 pm |
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one word
"yes"
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Captain Michael Pike
Captain
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 4:03 pm |
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lol
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Tyvek
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Location: Mississippi, USA
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 7:55 pm |
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On 2001-09-27 15:27, Captain Michael Pike wrote:
There is a Starfleet, but no United Federation of Planets. She is a high ranking officer aboard the Enterprise but not a member of Starfleet, therefore she has the authority to take command of the ship even though she doesn't belong to Starfleet. Just like Kira could command DS9 and the Defiant, so can T'Pol command the Enterprise.
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his is what I will agree with!
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Lindley
Vice Admiral
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Location: Fairfax, VA
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| Thu Sep 27, 2001 11:41 pm |
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I agree too, well said. The only thing I want to point out is:
"Starfleet" is still an Earth-based organization, so there probably are no nonhuman OFFICIAL members.
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Morphy
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| Fri Sep 28, 2001 1:07 am |
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For those people that were not able to watch the premiere, a little birdy told me that "broken bow" has been released in vcd-mpg format.
Search for:
enterprise.s01e01.cd1.VCD-FE.mpg
enterprise.s01e01.cd2.VCD-FE.mpg
e01x011.rar - e01x011.r29
e01x012.rar - e01x011.r28
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Lindley
Vice Admiral
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Location: Fairfax, VA
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| Fri Sep 28, 2001 7:09 am |
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Did the birdie also tell you which search engine to use? Google and Lycos don't work.
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Warp 10
Ensign
Joined: 18 Aug 2001
Posts: 57
Location: U.S.
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| Sat Sep 29, 2001 12:11 am |
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On 2001-09-27 15:27, Captain Michael Pike wrote:
There is a Starfleet, but no United Federation of Planets. She is a high ranking officer aboard the Enterprise but not a member of Starfleet, therefore she has the authority to take command of the ship even though she doesn't belong to Starfleet. Just like Kira could command DS9 and the Defiant, so can T'Pol command the Enterprise.
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Yes but if you see the end of the episode Archer and her discuss her permanent role on the Enterprise as First/Science officer in the fleet, which see said she might arange with Vulcan.
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Theresa
Lux Mihi Deus
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Location: United States of America
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| Sat Sep 29, 2001 9:26 am |
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On 2001-09-29 00:11, Warp 10 wrote:
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On 2001-09-27 15:27, Captain Michael Pike wrote:
There is a Starfleet, but no United Federation of Planets. She is a high ranking officer aboard the Enterprise but not a member of Starfleet, therefore she has the authority to take command of the ship even though she doesn't belong to Starfleet. Just like Kira could command DS9 and the Defiant, so can T'Pol command the Enterprise.
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Yes but if you see the end of the episode Archer and her discuss her permanent role on the Enterprise as First/Science officer in the fleet, which see said she might arange with Vulcan.
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Right. She can do all of that and still not be officially part of Starfleet. Bajor wasn't even a member of the Federation, but Kira was still there. And it is different cricumstances, I know, but the same logistics still apply.
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Quantum_Slipstream
Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 10 Oct 2001
Posts: 246
Location: Norfolk, Virginia
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| Mon Oct 15, 2001 3:39 pm |
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Everyone who live in the U.K., Australia, etc. where Enterprise is not yet broadcast, you can still watch the episodes by downloading them onto your computer.
The catch is that unless you have a broadband connection (cable, DSL, T1, etc), it will take forever to download.
To find the episodes, you need to download and use a peer-to-peer file sharing program. I recomment Direct Connect (www.neo-modus.com) and Limewire (search on http://www.download.com). Amazingly, new episodes can generally be found the very next day after their broadcast in the U.S. Unfortunately, due to their popularity, you often have to "wait in line" to get a "download slot" from the person you're downloading from.
Hope this helps. These programs are also good for getting episodes from all the other ST series (I've got every Voyager and TNG episode on my comp at home), except for the Original series episodes which are harder to find.
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I THINK IT IS COOL
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P_Pentagram
Crewman
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| Thu Mar 21, 2002 10:04 am |
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Trying to download enterprise episodes?
Go to sharereactor.com
Download e-donkey2000
And have Patience... 
A lot of patience...
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Maverick
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| Thu Mar 21, 2002 2:34 pm |
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Yoes, you do mess up the story line
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Chinesetrekkie
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| Fri Mar 22, 2002 12:52 am |
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On 2001-09-27 12:28, Warp 10 wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I liked the episode alot but come on. Spock is the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Now we have some emotional "female" [no offence] Vulcan being the first in the fleet. Well, we changed history alright. Forget the Star Trek knowledge we have known for years regarding Spock.
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well, until starfleet forms.. she is not offically... so the first enterprise and its crew are not under starfleet.
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