What do you think about Cardassians? |
Yeah i like them |
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They're okay... |
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I hate them! |
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:50 pm Cardassians |
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What do you think of Cardassians? Were they over used in DS9? Do you wish they never existed? etc etc
Talk about it here
Last edited by Sonic74205 on Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:07 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:57 pm |
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Why are there a no in the poll cause I can not stand them all except Garrak. I love Garrak. They were used too much in DS9.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:06 pm |
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there should be. I did edit it. Hang on i'll try again
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Defiant Fleet Admiral
Joined: 04 Jul 2001 Posts: 15946 Location: Oregon City, OR
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:02 am |
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I like them. Garak is my favorite character in all of trek.
Sisko: "Whos watching Tolar?"
Garak: "Ive locked him in his quarters. Ive also left him with the distinct impression that if he attempts to force the door open, it will explode."
Sisko: "I hope thats just a impression."
Garak: "Its best not to dwell on such things."
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Founder Dominion Leader
Joined: 21 Jun 2004 Posts: 12755 Location: Gamma Quadrant
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:51 am |
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Cardassians kickass. They were a great species and looked alien. A rarity in ST. They made a great oppresor race and fun bad guys. Although their betrayel of the Dominion was dramatic and believable. They certainly came full circle too. They started off as an overbearing oppressors to the Bajors to the defeated heros of the Alpha Quadrant. It would have been hard for the Feds, Klins, and Rommies to have won the battle without them.
CARDASSIAN UNION
Planet: Cardassia. Tall, long-necked, humanoid in appearance, marked by several bony protrusions and ridges: one from the shoulder to under the ears, whose bottom lobes in turn are more pronounced forward to the jawline; and from above the eyes and back over the head to the rear base of the skull, showing through hair. Other ridges run from the nose line to the forehead, and along the chin to define a sharp jawline. Their skin type and hair vary from light purple to a greenish hue and near black. Predatory in large numbers, more cautious alone and instinctively searching out a dominant position in any social setting. Children may keep pets. Women as well as men are allowed to be Gul in ship command.
The occupiers of Bajor subjugated the people and mined its resources, annexing it outright some 19 years into its 60-year occupation (beginning 2309) and building Terek Nor, now known as Deep Space Nine, initially as a mining station in 2335, perhaps using Romulan technology in some components. They then stripped the surface of Bajor and Deep Space Nine alike in vengeance when they withdrew less than two weeks before stardate 46388, leaving everything from basic systems to religious areas in shambles; some who resisted, including four Promenade merchants, were killed. The Cardassians also stole eight of the nine Bajoran prophets' orbs, causing a worried Kai Opaka to charge Federation Commander Benjamin Sisko with locating their Celestial Temple before the Cardassians found and destroyed it. Despite that, as a show of faith, Commander Sisko allowed Gul Dukat's crew aboard for shore leave. Their reputation for maltreatment of prisoners is well known, but in the world of commerce they are known for paying their bills. Their officials and officers were not above taking bribes from lowly Bajorans.
Other cultures don't seem to share their taste in food, such as yamok sauce. Their engineering standards tend to be lower than Starfleet specifications; Deep Space Nine's fusion powerplant design considers a range of 20% in operating efficiency to be within normal. Cardassian genetic engineers are advanced enough to be well-known by their trademark use of monoclonal links in their DNA-building; whether by open exchange, captured record or espionage, the details are easily researched in Federation records. They may have compulsory military service, at least for males. Death services are called "funerals" and they can be public occurrences, especially for major leaders. Military monuments line the planet, with some serving as burial sites.
One of their greatest characteristics is devotion to family; caring for parents as well as children. Families of up to four generations under one roof are not uncommon. Swearing the truth on the lives of one's children is tantamount to the highest honesty a Cardassian can attest to - as Dukat did to Commander Sisko. Parents are manipulated by state media in the name of their children, and the presumed-guilty justice system aims to impress children against anti-state lawlessness and chaos, inviting some to the courtroom live and others to watch. The revelation that he abandoned a child on Bajor, even one thought dead, is enough to publicly and privately humiliate a politician like Pa'dar, ruining his career. Despite that, true orphans have no status in society and are simply forgotten.
Another trait is an attention to detail: they taught record-keeping skills to many planets, including Bajor. Cardassians are famous for their photographic memories: when alleged that children at age 4 are put into intensive mind-training programs, it is acknowledged as the "unparalleled" educational system of the quadrant. Education is power and joy is vulnerability, Dukat asserts in Orwellian-like tones. The mental training can extend to enough discipline to deflect a Vulcan Mind Meld. One old native saying is, "Confession is good for the soul." Their physiology and constitution is much stouter than the human norm: showing immunity to the effects of depressants and anesthetics, neither two-plus bottles of Kanar nor 30cc's of TrIiptacederine has any effect; the latter amount would knock out an Algorian Mammoth.
Similar to Humans, Cardassians celebrate birthdays, respect marriage, and use a given name before the family name. Cardassians also respect advanced age as a sign of power and dignity.
It was somewhat recently determined that Bajorans made interstellar contact with Cardassians before they had the capability of spaceflight.
(Source: http://www.ncc2012.com/cardassian.html)
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Pitan Lieutenant
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:55 am |
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Hate is a strong word but i don't like them i disslike them very much.
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StarFury Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 239 Location: Hercules Station
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:49 am |
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Meh, they're alright i spose... but whenever a cardassians onscreen i cant stop counting all of the ridges on there face
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Leo Wyatt Sweetest Angel
Joined: 25 Feb 2004 Posts: 19045 Location: Investigating A Crime Scene. What did Quark do this time?
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:01 am |
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Cardassians are ugly except Garrak, hes an expection
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:04 pm |
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^lol, i wasn't expecting that . Yeah garaks kool. I like the way he talks.
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starnova Commodore
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1544 Location: Commodore on the USS Farraget
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:13 am |
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i think there ships can stand a few poundings
there made though
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The_Sisko Commander
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 356 Location: Columbia NX-02
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 10:04 am |
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Yeah i like them. But it's kind of weird how they are kind of the Nazis of the 24th century. But i think the creators did a good job in protraying them in that way.
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Alucard Vampire
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:31 pm |
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Rbgirl wrote: | Why are there a no in the poll cause I can not stand them all except Garrak. I love Garrak. They were used too much in DS9. |
Because that's who the Station was taken from silly
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Captain McKinnon Ensign, Junior Grade
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 35 Location: Federation Starship Voyager
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Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:27 pm Hee Hee |
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Hmm thats a good question i think cardassians and annoying bad tempors they need to learn some respect god the klingons show more than they do lol:)
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missl Captain
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 675
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Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:48 am |
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there ok, there not heaps good or anythung therre not bad neither there just ok
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Lt.Hood Commodore
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Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:47 am |
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Despite Garak and Damar, i dont like the cardassian race, they thrive on starting wars and causing trouble for other races.
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7of9_made it awesome Captain
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 616 Location: London
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Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:47 am |
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I have just started watching DS9 from the start and my first impression of the cardassions are that they are aggressive, annoying and unsympathetic, but i have only seen emissary part 1 and 2! remember im just saying there first impression!
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
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Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:32 am |
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I think the Cardassians are a great example of what the writers can do when they get a chance to develop a species. Although we haven't seen the level of culture from the Cardassians as we have the Klingons, they are definitely one of the better-known species of Trek. I love how they were closely involved throughout DS9.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
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Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:25 am |
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7of9_made it awesome wrote: | I have just started watching DS9 from the start and my first impression of the cardassions are that they are aggressive, annoying and unsympathetic, but i have only seen emissary part 1 and 2! remember im just saying there first impression! |
You watched it on Sky One Yesterday and today didn't you?
I was just exstatic when i saw DS9 started yesterday
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7of9_made it awesome Captain
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:34 am |
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guilty! im also gonna watch it today! i never thought i would have like DS9 but it seems to be growing on me, btw Which series is the battle wolf 359 in?? THG?
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Theresa Lux Mihi Deus
Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 27256 Location: United States of America
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:01 am |
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Hitchhiker wrote: | I think the Cardassians are a great example of what the writers can do when they get a chance to develop a species. Although we haven't seen the level of culture from the Cardassians as we have the Klingons, they are definitely one of the better-known species of Trek. I love how they were closely involved throughout DS9. |
Yeah, I agree. I liked the Cardassians, except did they really have to make us see O'Brien naked? Ewwww.
And with TNG still on, using Klingons again would have been too much.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:25 am |
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7of9_made it awesome wrote: | guilty! im also gonna watch it today! i never thought i would have like DS9 but it seems to be growing on me, btw Which series is the battle wolf 359 in?? THG? |
Yeah it was in Season 3 & 4 of TNG
Seeing O'Brien naked? I don't remember that...was it in season 2? Because i haven't seen much of season 2 DS9
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Founder Dominion Leader
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:52 pm |
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Chakotay1988 wrote: | Yeah it was in Season 3 & 4 of TNG |
It was also shown in episode one of DS9.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
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Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:09 pm |
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Founder wrote: | Chakotay1988 wrote: | Yeah it was in Season 3 & 4 of TNG |
It was also shown in episode one of DS9. |
Indeed. We don't actually see the Battle of Wolf 359 in "Best of Both Worlds." We only see the Enterprise capture Locutus and use him to disable the cube. DS9 showed the actual battle scene (quite a nicely choreographed battle, too) in the series premiere.
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Sonic74205 Rear Admiral
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:38 am |
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It was also shown in episode one of DS9. [/quote]
Indeed. We don't actually see the Battle of Wolf 359 in "Best of Both Worlds." We only see the Enterprise capture Locutus and use him to disable the cube. DS9 showed the actual battle scene (quite a nicely choreographed battle, too) in the series premiere.[/quote]
I agree. I remember when i got the DS9 Season 1 Boxset a few christmases ago and i put the first episode on (I had only seen bits of season 6 & 7 at that time) and i was absolutely gob smacked and was loving everyminute of it. Also when it started my parents came running into the room to see what was going on and to tell me to turn the sound up
So yeah i think that battle scene was excellent
Yeah in TNG you see all of the now destroyed ships that were attacking the cube but no, no huge battle
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Thomas Pool Princess
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:50 am |
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I think I remember an explanation from the special features saying that their budget for "Best of Both Worlds" just wasn't big enough, but with "Emissary" they had more money so they decided to go for it...
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