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John Connor
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 Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:34 pm Episode: "Enterprise - Storm Front, Part I" |
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Production: 077
Season: 4 Episode: 1
Original Air Date: 10.08.2004
Upcoming Air Date: 10.08.2004
Brief Description:
"Archer and the NX-01 find themselves in Earth's past, with events of World War II altered by the Temporal Cold War."
Synopsis (highlight to read):
| Quote: | "Having mysteriously survived the destruction of the Xindi superweapon, a battered Archer awakes to find himself back on Earth in the 1940s in the custody of Nazi SS agents, and learns that Nazi-uniformed aliens have successfully helped Germany invade the United States. When he manages to break free of his captors, Archer joins forces with American resistance fighters to unravel the conspiracy behind the occupation.
Meanwhile, believing Archer sacrificed himself to save Earth, T'Pol and the battle-weary Enterprise crew attempt to figure out how to return to their own time. But then a near-dead Daniels appears and informs them that the future has been wiped out by a faction of the Temporal Cold War, the same faction responsible for the altered events on Earth, and they must be stopped." |
More info (spoilers) at: http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/ENT/episode/6260.html
JC: "ATTENTION LOOK AT THIS SECTION SHOWS THE 30 SECOND CLIP OF THE FIRST EPOSIDE OF ENTERPRISE AND BEWARED THEY MAYBE SPOILERS IN IT AS WELL. "
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WeAz
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| Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:37 am |
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thats really neat
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Morphy
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:43 am |
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The synopsis for this episode doesn't really excite me.
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PrankishSmart
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:44 am |
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Me neither. I guess the suspense, or lack of, has faded even more now. I am just not really intrested in enterprise anymore. If season 4 picks up more, who knows.
I miss the days of 24th century trek.
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Ronevick
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jimgolian
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:44 pm |
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WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?!
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John Connor
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:53 pm |
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I cant wait for this eposide and the pass eposdie keep me excited for this one.
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Ronevick
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:04 pm |
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| jimgolian wrote: | WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?!
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Maybe, just maybe, it's an alien lifeform we've never seen before. 
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Founder
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| Mon Sep 20, 2004 6:15 pm |
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I heard it was supposed to be a Reman.
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Five - seveN
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:19 am |
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He might be screwed by the anomalies too!
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WeAz
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 5:40 pm |
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| jimgolian wrote: | WHAT THE HECK IS THIS?!
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its name is Vosk species unknown
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Morphy
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| Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:15 pm |
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Some of the best star trek episodes were in ENT season 3. I say this even though I'm an avid DS9 fan.
If season 4 has the same quality episodes, I'll be happy. However, the "preview" for the first episode of season 4 doesn't get me going. That may change once I watch it, and believe me, I will watch it.
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robbiewebster
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| Fri Oct 08, 2004 9:21 pm |
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just watched it, i liked it a lot, i wanted to beat the hell out of those nazi bastar ds when they talked to the black woman who took archer in.
those bastar ds
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Morphy
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| Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:41 am |
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I just watched it too. It was as I expected... bad.
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Kuro-chan
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| Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:47 am |
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Watched it too, and safe to say I have a different opinion of the episode. I think it was yet another pinacle of "Bad Writing" to just throw in another Temporal Cold War bad guy out of the blue, and do their best to highlight how dangerous and evil they are.
Why did Enterprise fire the Phase Cannons at their own Shuttlepod just becasue Silik was onboard? Couldn't the grappler worked just as effectively at bringing him in without shooting up the pod, or were they so determined to kill a Suliban? I guess no one told them there were more important things at stake than "Suliban Hunting Season".
The shuttlepod explosion bothered me, considering how many people Tucker and Mayweather killed off. Couldn't it have been possible (in any way) that one of those was essential to hisotry in some way, and by killing him there, they have altered the timeline?
The episode had a few merits, but I felt they were killed by bad writing. I gave it a 3/10. (And my friends gave it an even lower rating)
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Morphy
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| Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:08 am |
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3/10 is charitable, Kuro-chan.
You're right about the shuttlecraft explosion. It almost seemed as though the writers played it out that Trip and May did some awesome thing by blowing up the shuttle and taking out the "Nazis" with them. Clearly, the scene did not have to including blowing up the Nazis. The plot was unaffected by that scene. I believe it was added to make some appeal to the audience that "bad guys" were being killed.
The writers clouded the concept of "good vs bad." The real bad guys were the aliens, NOT Nazis. Trip and May are from a future with a united Earth. There are no divisions in the future that would have Trip and May blow up Nazis anymore than anyone else. Do you think we would have seen Trip blow up "Allied" forces there? I doubt it.
Bad episode.
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sabertooth1217
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| Sat Oct 09, 2004 4:07 pm |
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I Really don't know why you rate it so badly.
I watched it also, compared to some of the other Enterprise episodes, this really turned out to be good. Going from earth being attacked straight into the Temporal Cold War (was expected) was a very good move for the writers of Star Trek Enterprise. Having Aliens stuck in 1940's is a great twist (Along with World War II being changed). Having Silik involved is still a mystery to me. He saved Trip's life which is very strange. Having Archer stranded on the planet for the first half of the show really showed all that had changed about earth. *Meat only on Wednesdays to non-German solider* If I were to give the Episode a rating between 1-10, It would get a 9.6
Yes they did have some errors from taking the Nazias as the "Bad Guys" instead of the Aliens, But we are in World War II. They teamed up with the Aliens, which means that they are both 'Bay Guys'. The only thing which really matters is if you enjoyed to watch it, and I so happen to loved it.
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Puck
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| Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:28 pm |
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No synopsis from me. I just watch stuff, don't like to examine everything so closely, I think it takes the fun out of the whole show. Anyhow, I thought it was good, will be watching it next week so yeah... 
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Defiant
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| Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:31 am |
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It was...interesting. I didnt like the mobster thing, that was damn lame. And there were many many descripencies I noticed.
1. The alien dudes wouldnt have gone after Archer in the street. They would have made the Germans do it. They wouldnt risk themselves.
2. Archer said 'perhaps another time' or whatever BEFORE he started to beam out. He had no indication that they were going to beam him out that second.
3. Hoshi took a very long pause before saying they got Archers message. That was unrealistic too. She wouldve reported it right away. And the way she said it was weird too.
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jbi507
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| Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:06 pm |
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you guys are bare serious about the details, next you will be like where they getting the dilithium to stay in orbit for so long.
just watch it and be a happy bunny, or in most cases not so happy.
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Sam Kenobi
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| Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:22 pm |
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I liked it, though it's one of the only three episodes of Enterprise I've watched in full. I thugh it was a good storyline having them change the timeline so the Nazis were invading the US, but it was also kind of old. We've already seen weird aliens dressed up as NAzis in the VOY episode The Killing Game. so... I guess it made me want to watch Enterprise again, but that's about it.
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Ryano
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| Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:10 am |
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Gotta love Sal the Mob guy capping the alien guy in the chest! hehe
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Achilles
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| Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:56 pm |
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| Kuro-chan wrote: | The shuttlepod explosion bothered me, considering how many people Tucker and Mayweather killed off. Couldn't it have been possible (in any way) that one of those was essential to hisotry in some way, and by killing him there, they have altered the timeline?
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I haven't seen the episode yet, as I live in the UK. However, I have read the synopsis and as I understand it the timeline has already been altered by the time-travelling Nazis. To get back to how things are supposed to be, it will have to be changed back .. so wouldn't anything they did be meaningless .. which would actually make the episode pointless.
Ok ok, I'm tired and time-travel episodes are complicated, but I don't see how it would be such a significant thing if Enterprise defeats the aliens and returns things to how they are mean to be.
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Defiant
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| Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:47 am |
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| jbi507 wrote: | you guys are bare serious about the details, next you will be like where they getting the dilithium to stay in orbit for so long.
just watch it and be a happy bunny, or in most cases not so happy. |
I love to nitpick. Its what I do when I watch an episode more than like 3 times.
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Kuro-chan
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| Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:02 pm |
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| Kuro-chan wrote: | Watched it too, and safe to say I have a different opinion of the episode. I think it was yet another pinacle of "Bad Writing" to just throw in another Temporal Cold War bad guy out of the blue, and do their best to highlight how dangerous and evil they are.
The episode had a few merits, but I felt they were killed by bad writing. I gave it a 3/10. (And my friends gave it an even lower rating) |
I almost feel like I am at the center of criticism because I gave it a 3/10, or maybe it's because I think an Enterprise episode is "Bad". Out of fairness, I start every episode at 5/10. From there, the episode need to prove to me if it is worth more or less points. For it to go down to 3/10, there had to be more annoyances on screen then highlights. Also, out of fairness, I have given many episodes a much worse rating than 3/10, like Doctor's Orders, A Night in Sickbay, The Communicator and others. Those episodes had far more annoyances than highlights...
As for nitpicking, my only real complaint about Enterprise is the consistent "Missed Opportunities" and "Forgotten Things" through the series.
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