What form of creation do you believe in? |
Evolution theory |
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53% |
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Mars theory (Life came from Mars via an asteroid) |
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3% |
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Alien colinization theory (ET's seeded Earth with life) |
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Alien hybrid theory (We are the result of ET experiments) |
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0% |
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Adam and Eve theory |
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42% |
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:12 pm Creation |
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What form of creation do you believe in?
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:14 pm |
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I am a mixture, in a way. I believe that God created the Big Bangs of the Universes and guided it's creation. Then, he created evolution. And that is what I believe happened. So in the human creation sense, I believe in evolution.
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:17 pm |
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i belive in the Evolution theory. I am incapable of ever beliving the adam and eve one. I find it to be impossible and silly
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:21 pm |
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charmed88 wrote: | i belive in the Evolution theory. I am incapable of ever beliving the adam and eve one. I find it to be impossible and silly |
I don't find it like that. It's somewhat logical, in my opinion, but my theory on evolution seems more likely.
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CJ Cregg Commodore
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:28 pm |
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I dont belive in God so i cant accept the god theory
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:31 pm |
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charmed88 wrote: | I dont belive in God so i cant accept the god theory |
Oh, well okay. Then that's reasonable.
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Jeff Miller Fleet Admiral
Joined: 22 Nov 2001 Posts: 23947 Location: Mental Ward for the Mentaly Unstable 6th floor, Saint John's 1615 Delaware Longview Washington 98632
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:35 pm |
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I extremely beleive in the Evoloution theory but I'm open to the other ones except the one about Adam and Eve.
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Hitchhiker Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 3514 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:07 pm |
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The Evolution theory is not a creation theory. The theory of evolution does not state how life began, just that life (each species) has progressed (evolved) through several steps.
We had an evolution debate in this topic: http://www.startrekvoyager.com/viewtopic.php?t=17931 Unfortunately such debates inevitably involve creation.
But I do support the theory of evolution, simply because I have seen enough tentative proof to think it's the best tautology out there.
I tend to discount the Mars theory since I doubt that enough organisms could survive the heat of reentry into our atmosphere. Even if such extremophiles did survive, I doubt that they would seed far enough in range to develop a viable ecosphere that included plants and animals.
Alien colonization makes sense, so the only reason I didn't select it is because evolution is up there. I prefer it over the alien hybrid since our DNA seems so similar to that of other primates--the other primates would have to be previous versions of an experiment.
I also don't like the Adam and Eve theory simply because if you accept evolution, there is no true 'starting point' for the human species, we started out as primates who eventually evolved along the Austro- and Homo. genii until we got to Homo Sapiens Sapiens. However, if you really examine the Bible closely, there are enough situations to support Evolution should you choose to interpret that way.
But you see, Evolution is not the starting point. In the case of Mars or Alien colonization, life would have evolved naturally from the seeds deposited here, since I doubt that an asteroid from Mars could deposit billions of plant and animal species onto the Earth.
As for how the universe was created, I support the Big Bang, as it is the most viable theory out there. I am willing to think that a supreme being caused the Big Bang, but I don't necessarily think so definitively.
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Toad Chief of Security
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:57 pm |
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(sigh) Looks like I have some work to do.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:42 pm |
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I disagree. Creation and Evolution have EVERYTHING to do with each other.
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Toad Chief of Security
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:00 pm |
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Hey RM, I think I have to disagree with you this time. The Bible explains creation in detail, and has nothing to do with evolution.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:05 pm |
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Lt.CmdrWorf wrote: | Hey RM were you talking to me? |
No, Hitchhiker.
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Arellia The Quiet One
Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Posts: 4425 Location: Dallas, TX
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:09 pm |
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charmed88 wrote: | i belive in the Evolution theory. I am incapable of ever beliving the adam and eve one. I find it to be impossible and silly |
You forgot the gray area. Not all Christians believe Adam and Eve created everyone.
...which includes me. I do believe in the old testament. However, all people OBVIOUSLY didn't come from Adam and Eve. That's insane and impossible. People tend to forget the 6th-day creation, the Humans created that day. Therefore, I believe God created man. But it wasn't Adam and Eve.
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:10 pm |
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Exalya wrote: | charmed88 wrote: | i belive in the Evolution theory. I am incapable of ever beliving the adam and eve one. I find it to be impossible and silly |
You forgot the gray area. Not all Christians believe Adam and Eve created everyone.
...which includes me. I do believe in the old testament. However, all people OBVIOUSLY didn't come from Adam and Eve. That's insane and impossible. People tend to forget the 6th-day creation, the Humans created that day. Therefore, I believe God created man. But it wasn't Adam and Eve. |
Oh, I agree with that. But in the sense of Evolution. Otherwise I believe in the Old Testament 100%.
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Toad Chief of Security
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:13 pm |
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Exalya wrote: | charmed88 wrote: | i belive in the Evolution theory. I am incapable of ever beliving the adam and eve one. I find it to be impossible and silly |
You forgot the gray area. Not all Christians believe Adam and Eve created everyone.
...which includes me. I do believe in the old testament. However, all people OBVIOUSLY didn't come from Adam and Eve. That's insane and impossible. People tend to forget the 6th-day creation, the Humans created that day. Therefore, I believe God created man. But it wasn't Adam and Eve. |
Why is it impossible?
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Republican_Man STV's Premier Conservative
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:14 pm |
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Lt.CmdrWorf wrote: | Why is it impossible? |
Quote: | Therefore, I believe God created man. But it wasn't Adam and Eve. |
That's why, she said.
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Arellia The Quiet One
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:16 pm |
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Lt.CmdrWorf wrote: | Exalya wrote: |
You forgot the gray area. Not all Christians believe Adam and Eve created everyone.
...which includes me. I do believe in the old testament. However, all people OBVIOUSLY didn't come from Adam and Eve. That's insane and impossible. People tend to forget the 6th-day creation, the Humans created that day. Therefore, I believe God created man. But it wasn't Adam and Eve. |
Why is it impossible? |
Two people, creating 6 billion. Not possible.
If you follow it chronologically, you'll see that the sixth day came first, and then you had outside people mentioned. (Where else would the cities have come from that Caine was shunned in?) You follow the geneology, too, and find that Adam and Eve were actually set aside, and through Eve, to Seth, along down the line (Way down the line ), came Jesus.
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Toad Chief of Security
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Republican_Man wrote: | Lt.CmdrWorf wrote: | Why is it impossible? |
Quote: | Therefore, I believe God created man. But it wasn't Adam and Eve. |
That's why, she said. |
But isn't beleivable that God created Adam and Eve?
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Arellia The Quiet One
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Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:17 pm |
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No, no! I didn't say that! God created all man. But Adam and Eve were created especially to bring forth messiah. I meant that it wasn't Adam and Eve alone through which came all people, everywhere. Mathmatically impossible.
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webtaz99 Commodore
Joined: 13 Nov 2003 Posts: 1229 Location: The Other Side
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:30 pm My .02$ worth |
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All life on Earth is made up of amino acids. 20 of these are considered crucial to the making of protiens. Scientists have so far directly detected at least 4 of these in interstellar space. By simulating interstellar conditions on Earth, at least 3 more have been identified.
When discussing "life", I think we should say "terrestrial life", because that is the only kind of life we currently know about.
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:37 pm |
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Evolution.
The E.T theories are interesting, but hardly believable. They fall into about the same category of likelihood as the Religious ones.
I'm unable to believe in Religion, simply, so thats why I choose Evolution.
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1/1 Rear Admiral
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:52 pm |
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The creation story. I'm sorry but I can't believe in the evolution theory. It's just not plausible to me.
I believe in E.T but I don't think they had anything to do with us.
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Toad Chief of Security
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:38 pm |
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Quote: | Evolution.
The E.T theories are interesting, but hardly believable. They fall into about the same category of likelihood as the Religious ones.
I'm unable to believe in Religion, simply, so thats why I choose Evolution.
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That's like saying "I hate Bush so I'll vote for Kerry"
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Captain Dappet Forum Revolutionist
Joined: 06 Feb 2002 Posts: 16756 Location: On my supersonic rocket ship.
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:02 pm |
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Well, why not? If you hate Bush, logically, you don't vote for him, correct? You vote for his adversary, Kerry, whom, in the opinion of the person in question, is better than Bush.
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Gondor Girl Princess of Ithilien
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Hitchhiker wrote: | However, if you really examine the Bible closely, there are enough situations to support Evolution should you choose to interpret that way. |
Bull! Give me one instance where it can be translated into supportation of Evolution. I'm sorry but that's just a load of crap. Oh, yeah, I support the "Adam and Eve theory" better known as Creation.
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